Comments on: A stroll in the garden http://www.ronanpalliser.ie/blog/2010/02/23/a-stroll-in-the-garden/ A regularly-updated blog of a photographer in Dublin, Ireland Thu, 09 Feb 2012 13:46:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: | iffles.com http://www.ronanpalliser.ie/blog/2010/02/23/a-stroll-in-the-garden/comment-page-1/#comment-232 | iffles.com Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:46:56 +0000 http://www.ronanpalliser.ie/blog/?p=2763#comment-232 [...] Palliser uses an example of a photo of a bride and groom to illustrate that sometimes it’s ok that a photo isn’t “technically [...] [...] Palliser uses an example of a photo of a bride and groom to illustrate that sometimes it’s ok that a photo isn’t “technically [...]

]]> By: Ronan Palliser http://www.ronanpalliser.ie/blog/2010/02/23/a-stroll-in-the-garden/comment-page-1/#comment-231 Ronan Palliser Thu, 25 Feb 2010 17:55:03 +0000 http://www.ronanpalliser.ie/blog/?p=2763#comment-231 Thanks folks for all the comment. This one has got some discussion on Twitter too. I'm glad to see in general people agree and see what I mean - it could have been misinterpreted and gone horribly wrong. Jennifer, you should definitely try some sort of get-together if you can find others in your area. Your view of camera clubs is spot on I think. They play a great role to get a good technical mindset. I'm definitely no expert on them but by all means drop me a line if you are trying to put one together and I'll happily give you my thoughts on how to go with it. Karen, thanks for the nice comments... I'd love to get to the Blog Awards and the photo walk but sadly (!) I'm going to be in Sydney. I'll be keeping an eye on Twitter from over there to see how everyone is getting on at the awards though. Tim, that's very kind of you to say so. The reason I was able to get this shot was because I was a guest and not the official photographer. Sadly as official photographer you'd be unlikely to get this shot - it would take an assistant or a lot of guts to wander so far from the couple at that point of the day! Tony - glad someone laughed at them! I agree too that joining DCC has been great, and I love the competitions, but do find myself playing the game on occasion. Your approach has worked well for you this year, and that famous egg shot was one of the most creative I've seen in a long time! Cheers all, Ronan Thanks folks for all the comment. This one has got some discussion on Twitter too. I’m glad to see in general people agree and see what I mean – it could have been misinterpreted and gone horribly wrong.

Jennifer, you should definitely try some sort of get-together if you can find others in your area. Your view of camera clubs is spot on I think. They play a great role to get a good technical mindset. I’m definitely no expert on them but by all means drop me a line if you are trying to put one together and I’ll happily give you my thoughts on how to go with it.

Karen, thanks for the nice comments… I’d love to get to the Blog Awards and the photo walk but sadly (!) I’m going to be in Sydney. I’ll be keeping an eye on Twitter from over there to see how everyone is getting on at the awards though.

Tim, that’s very kind of you to say so. The reason I was able to get this shot was because I was a guest and not the official photographer. Sadly as official photographer you’d be unlikely to get this shot – it would take an assistant or a lot of guts to wander so far from the couple at that point of the day!

Tony – glad someone laughed at them! I agree too that joining DCC has been great, and I love the competitions, but do find myself playing the game on occasion. Your approach has worked well for you this year, and that famous egg shot was one of the most creative I’ve seen in a long time!

Cheers all,
Ronan

]]> By: Tony Betts http://www.ronanpalliser.ie/blog/2010/02/23/a-stroll-in-the-garden/comment-page-1/#comment-230 Tony Betts Wed, 24 Feb 2010 11:18:19 +0000 http://www.ronanpalliser.ie/blog/?p=2763#comment-230 I had to laugh at your hypothetical judges comments. They are spot on! Joining DCC back in 2006 was the best thing I have done for my Photography & have learned a lot from entering competitions. I do remember advice given from a long time member when starting to do enter photo's & that was not to fall into the trap of only shooting for competitions, but to keep shooting what you like & then select what you choose to enter. It is good advice & a lot I shoot is just for me. The image I have the most comments on Pix.ie would probably be ripped apart by a judge as it's a Sunset Shot (almost as despised as Weddings & Swans!) but people seem to like it. I do still enter stuff into the competitions which is not the general fare & often it does not score well, but so what. I will also stick in a more conservative shot too. I also can see the technical issues with the shot above but also think it's a very strong image. The key is knowing when the unconventional becomes excellent & bugger the "rules". Now if you had broken one more rule & the couple were not sharp or poorly exposed the whole thing would then fail, but then that's what you get with it being on the edge. I loves breaking rules, keep it up! I had to laugh at your hypothetical judges comments. They are spot on!

Joining DCC back in 2006 was the best thing I have done for my Photography & have learned a lot from entering competitions. I do remember advice given from a long time member when starting to do enter photo’s & that was not to fall into the trap of only shooting for competitions, but to keep shooting what you like & then select what you choose to enter. It is good advice & a lot I shoot is just for me. The image I have the most comments on Pix.ie would probably be ripped apart by a judge as it’s a Sunset Shot (almost as despised as Weddings & Swans!) but people seem to like it. I do still enter stuff into the competitions which is not the general fare & often it does not score well, but so what. I will also stick in a more conservative shot too.

I also can see the technical issues with the shot above but also think it’s a very strong image. The key is knowing when the unconventional becomes excellent & bugger the “rules”. Now if you had broken one more rule & the couple were not sharp or poorly exposed the whole thing would then fail, but then that’s what you get with it being on the edge.

I loves breaking rules, keep it up!

]]> By: TimPhotography http://www.ronanpalliser.ie/blog/2010/02/23/a-stroll-in-the-garden/comment-page-1/#comment-229 TimPhotography Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:05:18 +0000 http://www.ronanpalliser.ie/blog/?p=2763#comment-229 Totally agree with your sentiments. You have to play camera clubs at their own game, and understand all the hidden agendas and ego massaging that they all (seem to) work to. You're right that this shot would be talked down in a club. And you're right that it's actually a cracking shot. From my 'commercial photography' point of view, it's a much more intelligent and refreshing look at a magic moment in this couples big day, and one of the nicest wedding photos I've seen to date. Set's you apart from the rest Ronan! Totally agree with your sentiments. You have to play camera clubs at their own game, and understand all the hidden agendas and ego massaging that they all (seem to) work to. You’re right that this shot would be talked down in a club. And you’re right that it’s actually a cracking shot. From my ‘commercial photography’ point of view, it’s a much more intelligent and refreshing look at a magic moment in this couples big day, and one of the nicest wedding photos I’ve seen to date. Set’s you apart from the rest Ronan!

]]> By: Karen O'Hara, ARPS AIPF/TownieLee http://www.ronanpalliser.ie/blog/2010/02/23/a-stroll-in-the-garden/comment-page-1/#comment-228 Karen O'Hara, ARPS AIPF/TownieLee Tue, 23 Feb 2010 19:18:26 +0000 http://www.ronanpalliser.ie/blog/?p=2763#comment-228 I enjoy reading your photoblogs. You always have something profound to say about photography both philosophically and technically. Good luck at the Blog Awards; I hope you win! I'll be in Galway that weekend for the photowalk and may run into you in the town. Cheers, Karen I enjoy reading your photoblogs. You always have something profound to say about photography both philosophically and technically. Good luck at the Blog Awards; I hope you win! I’ll be in Galway that weekend for the photowalk and may run into you in the town. Cheers, Karen

]]> By: Jennifer Farley http://www.ronanpalliser.ie/blog/2010/02/23/a-stroll-in-the-garden/comment-page-1/#comment-227 Jennifer Farley Tue, 23 Feb 2010 16:36:37 +0000 http://www.ronanpalliser.ie/blog/?p=2763#comment-227 Very good and well considered post Ronan. I'm not in a camera club because they're is no clubs near me but I like the idea of the social aspect of it. I suppose the camera club can be seen as a place to learn the rules if you're new to photography and then it's up to you to go out and break them, or at least stretch them and adapt them. I'm half contemplating trying to start one up near where I live. I might get back to you for some advice if I ever get around to it :-) Very good and well considered post Ronan. I’m not in a camera club because they’re is no clubs near me but I like the idea of the social aspect of it.

I suppose the camera club can be seen as a place to learn the rules if you’re new to photography and then it’s up to you to go out and break them, or at least stretch them and adapt them.

I’m half contemplating trying to start one up near where I live. I might get back to you for some advice if I ever get around to it :-)

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